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#1 neitzke

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 12:03 PM

Being fairly new to carp fishing I have fished few venues, this is going to change in 2012. I live in Salem Indiana, and their are several lakes and rivers in my part of the state and I have wondered about the carp populations in these waters. Can you help? Have any of you fished the Scottsburg city lake, or the East fork of the white river near brownstown or Medora or Seymour< Has any one fished Williams Dam? how about Hardy Lake, John hay lake, Deems Lake, Mascatatuck river. Another question. If you do a baiting session in the river do you do anything different than baiting a lake. I plan on fishing the east fork of the white river, does any one want to make a guess as to possible size of carp. Do you think it has 30 lbs possible carp? Any info you might have would be appreciated if nothing else you all might give me an educated guess. Thanks Neitzke

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 12:32 PM

neitzke,
i would guess the average size of the carp in the east fork of the white river would be between 8 and 15 lbs with the occasional bigger fish. it seems to me that's the average in rivers around here. i fished williams dam when i first got into carp fishing and didn't catch anything. i remember having problems with lots of snags. hardy lake has been on my list of places to check out for a couple of years. they stocked it with grasscarp several years ago so there should be some big grassies in there. as far as baiting a river, i don't think you can overchum. usually if i prebait the river here i just dump in about half a 5 gallon bucket of soaked corn the day before. i fished the mississippi river last august and chummed 5 gallons of corn a day and that kept them in the area.
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Posted 18 February 2012 - 03:42 PM

Hardy lake I'm there this spring

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 06:12 PM

Hardy lake I'm there this spring

Ok Care to fill us in? Have you fished there before? When I used to bass fish I saw large carp in that lake but they might have been grassies, I know the DNR put a bunch of them in 10 or 12 years ago.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 08:03 PM

No... Just check it out on goggle.. A bubby of mine said he seen BIG grass carp in there

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 09:35 AM

on the dnr's website i found a creel survey from 2003 that said two grasscarp were caught they weighed between 30 and 35 lbs. if they were that big in 2003 imagine how big they are now. it also said that between 1996 and 2002 3480 grasscarp were stocked. it didn't said much about commons.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 01:14 PM

I've seen that on the DNR site but i was thinking it was more grass carp that that had been stocked. 4 or 5 years ago i was on the lake in a boat bass fishing and i saw numerous large carp, probable approaching 3 feet in length. At that time i didnt know a grassie from a common so i know they are in there. How about the city lake at Scottsburg, been there a long long time And I,ve seen carp in there too. Anyone want to make a guess of the potential of large carp in that lake? I would say very good for carp up to 30 lbs, but remember this is just a guess on my part but i see that lake as being a possible sleeper. I will find out this year.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 01:47 PM

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are you talking about iola lake in scottsburg or scottsburg reservoir? i would try them both. as far as a guess at weight, you never know. it could be like new castle and have big carp and koi

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 02:08 PM

Scottsburg reservoir is the one i'm thinking of. never heard of iola lake, going to have to get on google earth. At one time the Scottsburg reservoir gave up the states biggest hibred cross walleye , saugar. When I moved to Salem some 30 years ago i read a story in one of the fishing mags. about a possible state record bass also in the lake, so this lake can grow large fish. if carp are not targeted there than it could be a very good Big Fish lake. I plan on baiting it for 2 or 3 days than putting in a session sometime this spring. Anyone who uould like to try with me , let me know.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 03:46 PM

I frequently fish tributaries for the East Fork white for Flatheads, but have recently been getting into carp. We have seen good size buffalo in the Driftwood that feeds directly into the E. Fork. Even farther north into its tributaries, there are large carp. You are very likely to find very nice fish in the East Fork of any species that you can think of and certainly some larger ones too. One night I was sitting on the bank of the driftwood and it sounded like boulders falling in the lake with carp, buffalo or drum jumping. Not sure which but probably all of the above, but Ive never heard so much commotion in my life.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 07:41 PM

thanks jworth I cant wait to explore the wild waters around here, never caught a buffalo but thought they were probably in the river. several years ago I know an old fellow who put limb lines out on the river and caught lots of big cats probably some in the 30 lb range maybe bigger just dont remember weights but did see the fish. My goal is a 30 lb. carp on rod and reel

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 08:34 PM

Adam - neitzke, there is 30lbers in that lake that you fish all the time in salem, id recomond baiting with 18, 20, or 22mm boilies and not much particle to keep the smaller fish off your back, it can SOMETIMES take a while to get fish that way but i believe youd catch bigger fish.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 08:56 AM

Dear Adam, thanks for your advise. No I am not giving up on my dear hometown lake. My PB is 26 1/2 lb and i think I have had as large if not larger on. As you know one side of the lake is allmost non-accessible from the bank. There a few places i think you could fish from the bank but very hard to get there. I am thinking of using my boat to access these places than setting up my equipment on the bank to fish. I can allso use my boat to locate any irregular places on the bottom of the lake with my fish finder and possible use the boat for a baiting session. I feel that these fish get a lot of pressure and probably stay on that protected side of the lake. Also there is a deeper channel along part of it and a couple of coves which look good to me. Have not used a lot of bolies mainly particles to pre bait but will have to try that. Come down and fish sometime, chance of a 30 or bigger and catch a lot in the mid teens and a few low twentys and lots of flippers. OH by the way do you ever make your own boiles?

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 10:37 AM

Adam - nope i have not made boilies before, and yes me and my dad will try and fish with ya sometime this year!

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 02:27 PM

I believe if you fish double twenty millimeter boilies on salinda as often as possible and cut out all the particles and packbait all together you have a very good chance at a thirty there this year. Salinda is a boilie lake. Plain and Simple. Not saying you can't catch nice fish there on anything else just telling you my opinion of the best way.... Fruity or Nutty and i almost always use the dynamite boilies when boilie fishing. Never tried making them. Despite other people's success I have not faired well on world class boilies. They have excellent ground bait but I have not seen the boiles catch like the dynamite boiles have for me. Just my two cents. hope it helps

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 07:06 PM

Adam - im tellin you dan that world classic scopex is where its at!




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